Popular Post +Derbyshire Dave Posted May 16, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 16, 2019 Taken last week at Attenborough Nature Reserve, Nottingham. Beautiful day, took the tripod and 2x converter for the 300mm lens Red Crested Pochard -with an itchy nose??????????????? Whitethroat (or is that a Lesser Whitethroat Mick?) Sedge Warbler Singing his or her little heart out, BAZ, +Ibbo, +Streetbob and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Derbyshire Dave Posted May 16, 2019 Author Share Posted May 16, 2019 Aggh, colours have come out poor again. They were really bright as I inserted them, but have become really muted again after I placed the post. Grrrrrrrr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Derbyshire Dave Posted May 16, 2019 Author Share Posted May 16, 2019 PLEASE CLICK ON INDIVIDUAL PICTURES TO SEE TRUE COLOURS IN FLICKR! ANYONE WHO CAN HELP ME SORT THESE COLOURS OUT WILL BE REWARDED WITH BEER!!!!!!!! Mick and Craig have already tried to help here. Mick's suggestion was to go to the photostream in Flickr, select the image, DO NOT OPEN IT, but right click, and click "Copy Link Location". This doesn't seem to work now, anyone who can help me here, I'd really appreciate it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philjay Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 Great pictures Dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Graham Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 Great pictures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bottletopburly Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 This may shed light Dave found on the net maybe worth trying a different browser to see if there is a difference, what browser are you using , nice pictures btw . If you don't have your color space set to "sRGB" in whatever editing tool you use, then most browsers will give random results at best. It might be a setting on your camera, especially if you're shooting RAW format, but whatever you're using for final output should have a setting available, and it should be set to "sRGB". There are hundreds of proprietary color space options, many specific to manufacturer or camera or software. When editing for printing it's useful to have these options, but when displaying on the internet, you have to use the one that most browsers can parse. You might also check, and this is more rare since it's a printing setting only, but look to make sure you aren't set for "CMYK". This level of washing out is something I see when a viewer/browser attempts to display a CMYK image as RGB. Posted 77 mo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Derbyshire Dave Posted May 16, 2019 Author Share Posted May 16, 2019 Morning David. Hope weather is good in Northampton. I'm using Firefox generally, on a PC. The colour space of the original photo is set to sRGB. I see this when I open the original picture in Photoshop, and if I upload to Flickr, and then download a copy, the downloaded image still says sRGB. HOWEVER.. I asked Craig about this, and he told me.. here's an extract of the EXIF data from Flickr: Color Mode - RGB ICCProfile Name - ProPhoto RGB But I'm not sure how he did that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bottletopburly Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 2 hours ago, Derbyshire Dave said: Morning David. Hope weather is good in Northampton. I'm using Firefox generally, on a PC. The colour space of the original photo is set to sRGB. I see this when I open the original picture in Photoshop, and if I upload to Flickr, and then download a copy, the downloaded image still says sRGB. HOWEVER.. I asked Craig about this, and he told me.. here's an extract of the EXIF data from Flickr: Color Mode - RGB ICCProfile Name - ProPhoto RGB But I'm not sure how he did that. I wonder if it happens if you have a pro account on Flickr, or if there is a setting in Flickr that you can change Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bottletopburly Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 Posted in your other thread by mistake https://www.flickr.com/groups/92938852@N00/discuss/72157624051873667/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+RonC Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 (edited) Great photo's Dave, although the colour is a bit muted, I think they all look very natural!!? Ron BTW It's a Whitethroat (leg and crown colours!) Edited May 16, 2019 by Ron Clarke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 (edited) When I look at the exif from my photos the colour space is set to sRGB on your photos the exif show the colour space as uncalibrated ( look at the yellow highlight below). I don't know if this is something to do with it. You find your exif data by clicking the button saying exif in flickr next to you camera and lens setting info, mage Width - 5133 Image Height - 3723 Bits Per Sample - 16 16 16 Compression - Uncompressed Photometric Interpretation - RGB Make - Canon Orientation - Horizontal (normal) Samples Per Pixel - 3 X-Resolution - 240 dpi Y-Resolution - 240 dpi Planar Configuration - Chunky Software - Adobe Photoshop CC 2019 (Windows) Date and Time (Modified) - 2019:05:16 08:48:13 Artist - David Frost YCbCr Positioning - Centered Copyright - Copyright D Frost 2017 ISO Speed - 400 Sensitivity Type - Recommended Exposure Index Recommended Exposure Index - 400 Exif Version - 0230 Date and Time (Original) - 2019:05:07 09:23:17 Date and Time (Digitized) - 2019:05:07 09:23:17 Components Configuration - Y, Cb, Cr, - Exposure Bias - +2/3 EV Max Aperture Value - 8.0 Metering Mode - Spot Sub Sec Time - 91 Sub Sec Time Original - 91 Sub Sec Time Digitized - 91 Flashpix Version - 0100 Color Space - Uncalibrated Focal Plane X-Resolution - 2688.726619 Focal Plane Y-Resolution - 2688.726619 Focal Plane Resolution Unit - cm Sensing Method - One-chip color area File Source - Digital Camera Custom Rendered - Normal Exposure Mode - Manual White Balance - Auto Digital Zoom Ratio - 1 Scene Capture Type - Standard Lens Info - 600mm f/? Lens Model - EF300mm f/4L IS USM +2x III Lens Serial Number - 0000000000 Coded Character Set - UTF8 Envelope Record Version - 4 Application Record Version - 0 Date Created - 2019:05:07 Time Created - 09:23:17+00:00 By-line - David Frost Copyright Notice - Copyright D Frost 2017 Global Angle - 30 Global Altitude - 30 IPTCDigest - 7abaecf60abed9336f3a018557686a6a XMPToolkit - Adobe XMP Core 5.6-c145 79.163499, 2018/08/13-16:40:22 Approximate Focus Distance - 2147483647 Firmware - 1.01 Flash Compensation - 0 Image Number - 0 Lens ID - 177 Creator - David Frost Format - image/jpeg Rights - Copyright D Frost 2017 Serial Number - 443052000799 Lens Model - EF300mm f/4L IS USM +2x III Lens Serial Number - 0000000000 Lens Info - 600mm f/? Color Mode - RGB ICCProfile Name - ProPhoto RGB Legacy IPTCDigest - 814B37A31B8CECAB1DC580B595CB9F96 Creator Tool - Adobe Photoshop CC 2019 (Windows) Metadata Date - 2019:05:16 08:48:13+01:00 Rating - 0 Derived From Document ID - adobe:docid:photoshop:7c0db6c2-077d-624f-8fcb-ded6b779c47a Derived From Instance ID - xmp.iid:b7cbc1e8-d0d4-8143-8fc8-37b51d27788e Derived From Original Document ID - CBB73DA7119E4B3DB5267041BAA705BD Document ID - adobe:docid:photoshop:5ad9aa70-e094-5340-85a3-860881ce1a26 Instance ID - xmp.iid:08bd0ac5-5294-cb45-a47b-291fb24da9c2 Original Document ID - CBB73DA7119E4B3DB5267041BAA705BD Camera ID - 72157668584224581 Camera Type - Mirrorless Camera Edited May 16, 2019 by Doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 (edited) Compare it with mine mage Width - 5472 Image Height - 3648 Bits Per Sample - 8 8 8 Compression - JPEG (old-style) Photometric Interpretation - RGB Make - Canon Orientation - Horizontal (normal) Samples Per Pixel - 3 X-Resolution - 300 dpi Y-Resolution - 300 dpi Software - Adobe Photoshop CS6 (Windows) Date and Time (Modified) - 2019:05:16 13:53:41 YCbCr Positioning - Co-sited ISO Speed - 800 Sensitivity Type - Recommended Exposure Index Recommended Exposure Index - 800 Exif Version - 0230 Date and Time (Original) - 2019:05:16 11:18:59 Date and Time (Digitized) - 2019:05:16 11:18:59 Components Configuration - Y, Cb, Cr, - Exposure Bias - 0 EV Max Aperture Value - 6.2 Metering Mode - Spot Sub Sec Time - 55 Sub Sec Time Original - 55 Sub Sec Time Digitized - 55 Flashpix Version - 0100 Color Space - sRGB Focal Plane X-Resolution - 3810.584958 Focal Plane Y-Resolution - 3815.899582 Focal Plane Resolution Unit - inches Custom Rendered - Normal Exposure Mode - Manual White Balance - Auto Scene Capture Type - Standard Lens Info - 150-600mm f/0 Lens Model - TAMRON SP 150-600mm F/5-6.3 Di VC USD G2 A022 Lens Serial Number - 0000000000 Interop Index - R98 - DCF basic file (sRGB) Interop Version - 0100 Coded Character Set - UTF8 Envelope Record Version - 4 Application Record Version - 0 Date Created - 2019:05:16 Time Created - 11:18:59+00:00 Global Angle - 30 Global Altitude - 30 IPTCDigest - bb1f5e5f72d06fdcfe4f178ea50aa6be XMPToolkit - Adobe XMP Core 5.3-c011 66.145661, 2012/02/06-14:56:27 Approximate Focus Distance - 0.48 Firmware - 1.1.7 Flash Compensation - 0 Image Number - 0 Lens ID - 747 Format - image/jpeg Serial Number - 078053000267 Lens Serial Number - 0000000000 Lens Info - 150-600mm f/? Color Mode - RGB ICCProfile Name - sRGB IEC61966-2.1 Metadata Date - 2019:05:16 13:53:41+01:00 Rating - 0 Document ID - B25DEBF1769880C6075095855F5648C6 Instance ID - xmp.iid:40B89B77D877E9118466CF678784687F Original Document ID - B25DEBF1769880C6075095855F5648C6 Camera ID - 72157607012320362 Camera Type - Digital SLR Add this photo to your map Edited May 16, 2019 by Doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Derbyshire Dave Posted May 16, 2019 Author Share Posted May 16, 2019 10 minutes ago, Doc said: When I look at the exif from my photos the colour space is set to sRGB on your photos the exif show the colour space as uncalibrated ( look at the yellow highlight below). I don't know if this is something to do with it. You find your exif data by clicking the button saying exif in flickr next to you camera and lens setting info, mage Width - 5133 Image Height - 3723 Bits Per Sample - 16 16 16 Compression - Uncompressed Photometric Interpretation - RGB Make - Canon Orientation - Horizontal (normal) Samples Per Pixel - 3 X-Resolution - 240 dpi Y-Resolution - 240 dpi Planar Configuration - Chunky Software - Adobe Photoshop CC 2019 (Windows) Date and Time (Modified) - 2019:05:16 08:48:13 Artist - David Frost YCbCr Positioning - Centered Copyright - Copyright D Frost 2017 ISO Speed - 400 Sensitivity Type - Recommended Exposure Index Recommended Exposure Index - 400 Exif Version - 0230 Date and Time (Original) - 2019:05:07 09:23:17 Date and Time (Digitized) - 2019:05:07 09:23:17 Components Configuration - Y, Cb, Cr, - Exposure Bias - +2/3 EV Max Aperture Value - 8.0 Metering Mode - Spot Sub Sec Time - 91 Sub Sec Time Original - 91 Sub Sec Time Digitized - 91 Flashpix Version - 0100 Color Space - Uncalibrated Focal Plane X-Resolution - 2688.726619 Focal Plane Y-Resolution - 2688.726619 Focal Plane Resolution Unit - cm Sensing Method - One-chip color area File Source - Digital Camera Custom Rendered - Normal Exposure Mode - Manual White Balance - Auto Digital Zoom Ratio - 1 Scene Capture Type - Standard Lens Info - 600mm f/? Lens Model - EF300mm f/4L IS USM +2x III Lens Serial Number - 0000000000 Coded Character Set - UTF8 Envelope Record Version - 4 Application Record Version - 0 Date Created - 2019:05:07 Time Created - 09:23:17+00:00 By-line - David Frost Copyright Notice - Copyright D Frost 2017 Global Angle - 30 Global Altitude - 30 IPTCDigest - 7abaecf60abed9336f3a018557686a6a XMPToolkit - Adobe XMP Core 5.6-c145 79.163499, 2018/08/13-16:40:22 Approximate Focus Distance - 2147483647 Firmware - 1.01 Flash Compensation - 0 Image Number - 0 Lens ID - 177 Creator - David Frost Format - image/jpeg Rights - Copyright D Frost 2017 Serial Number - 443052000799 Lens Model - EF300mm f/4L IS USM +2x III Lens Serial Number - 0000000000 Lens Info - 600mm f/? Color Mode - RGB ICCProfile Name - ProPhoto RGB Legacy IPTCDigest - 814B37A31B8CECAB1DC580B595CB9F96 Creator Tool - Adobe Photoshop CC 2019 (Windows) Metadata Date - 2019:05:16 08:48:13+01:00 Rating - 0 Derived From Document ID - adobe:docid:photoshop:7c0db6c2-077d-624f-8fcb-ded6b779c47a Derived From Instance ID - xmp.iid:b7cbc1e8-d0d4-8143-8fc8-37b51d27788e Derived From Original Document ID - CBB73DA7119E4B3DB5267041BAA705BD Document ID - adobe:docid:photoshop:5ad9aa70-e094-5340-85a3-860881ce1a26 Instance ID - xmp.iid:08bd0ac5-5294-cb45-a47b-291fb24da9c2 Original Document ID - CBB73DA7119E4B3DB5267041BAA705BD Camera ID - 72157668584224581 Camera Type - Mirrorless Camera Interestingly, further down this exif (now highlighted Orange) is COlor Mode RGB, ICCProfileName ProPhoto RGB, which is what Craig mentioned.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 Now look at mine it says Color Mode - RGB ICCProfile Name - sRGB IEC61966-2.1 Which isn't what Craig recommended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan the Plumber Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 you should of said you where over this way Dave, I'm just round the corner you could of popped in for a cuppa, I'm about mile down the road in beeston Rylands ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Derbyshire Dave Posted May 16, 2019 Author Share Posted May 16, 2019 15 minutes ago, Doc said: Now look at mine it says Color Mode - RGB ICCProfile Name - sRGB IEC61966-2.1 Which isn't what Craig recommended. The information in Photoshop looks like this Mick (and Craig and everyone) This is page 2 This page 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 These are my settings in Photoshop CS6 they are a little different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Derbyshire Dave Posted May 16, 2019 Author Share Posted May 16, 2019 Thanks Mick. Like the colou management policies being off. I'm gonna have a play. Appreciate it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Derbyshire Dave Posted May 16, 2019 Author Share Posted May 16, 2019 OK.. I Think I have a fix. I now ask to check for profile mismatches, and when it finds the embedded ProColour one, I choose 'Convert to working RGB. THESE SHOULD NOW LOOK OK! (Thanks guys!) Pochard Whitethroat Sedge Warbler.. philjay and +RonC 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Derbyshire Dave Posted May 16, 2019 Author Share Posted May 16, 2019 And they do! Hoorah! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 Well done Dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Derbyshire Dave Posted May 17, 2019 Author Share Posted May 17, 2019 19 hours ago, Allan the Plumber said: you should of said you where over this way Dave, I'm just round the corner you could of popped in for a cuppa, I'm about mile down the road in beeston Rylands ? Hiya, Would have loved to done that and seen your home setup. Another time maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan the Plumber Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 yes Dave let me know next time your popping over to Attenborough will make sure im about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Derbyshire Dave Posted May 19, 2019 Author Share Posted May 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Allan the Plumber said: yes Dave let me know next time your popping over to Attenborough will make sure im about Yeah, I’d love that Allan. I’ll PM my personal details. Let me know where you are and I’ll definitely plan a visit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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