Teslar Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 I've used a 450D and a QHY8L and I have to say the latter immediately gave better sharper photos even in a novices hand. I'm still experimenting with the 8L and due to trying too many things at once I wasted my best chance to get astro images last weekend sadly I only have weekends to fit in astronomy as I work away from home in the week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyboy1970 Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 (edited) Don't like the sound of that Andy, bit too small for my liking. Field of view through my 200p with Atik16ic = 16.77' x 12.57' Edited April 2, 2013 by andyboy1970 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Graham Posted April 2, 2013 Author Share Posted April 2, 2013 Field of view through my 200p with Atik16ic = 16.77' x 12.57' Now put like that it don't seem too bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celeste Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Good thread here, seems the 314l+ is the first choice for new ccd imagers....and it will be a massive improvement on my Starlight MX7C....now that has a tiny chip! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest spacedex Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 what did you get in the end ? John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Graham Posted April 8, 2013 Author Share Posted April 8, 2013 what did you get in the end ? John Hi John. Nothing as yet. Sheila bless her heart is lending me her 314 to try out to see how I get on with it. I will let you all know the results asap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antares_Paul Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 Graham, Can I request 1x300s sub of M1 with the 314 please? Just need a look-see of the full size raw image file. Regards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AstroOlly Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 I am confused ad DSLR's use CMOS sensors not CCD!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Graham Posted April 9, 2013 Author Share Posted April 9, 2013 Graham, Can I request 1x300s sub of M1 with the 314 please? Just need a look-see of the full size raw image file. Regards. Yes no probs. If you can arrange a clear night I will take the sub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antares_Paul Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 Friday night 2200-0400 Booked and paid Regards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Graham Posted April 10, 2013 Author Share Posted April 10, 2013 Friday night 2200-0400 Booked and paid Regards. Ok Paul, the camera is here and up and running I will see what I can do for you when you deliver the clear sky on Friday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyboy1970 Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 The strangest thing I found going from DSLR to CCD was the lack of shutter noise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sloz1664 Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Hi There, Just picked up this thread. Dedicated astro ccd cameras are definitely top of the pile. Olly Penrice rates them as:- 1st Mono ccd 2nd osc ccd and a distant 3rd DSLR. Reasons are dedicated ccd's are cooled, typically 30 degs below ambient. They have the harsh IR filter removed and the new low noise ccd chips don't need dark frames. The Atik 341L being one of them. Downside is they run from expensive to very expensive. I have been lucky I picked up a QHY8 Pro osc & a SXVF HR Mono second hand separately both a good price, and both are immaculate. I know you take your chance buying second hand, but if you buy well & at the end of the day it's not for you. You will not lose out. cheers Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ollypenrice Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 Yes, I really can't say I like DSLRs though they offer a big chip at a low price. No question there. However, when used in ultra fast optics they can and sometimes do give CCD like results. http://www.dutchdeepsky.com/ic1396_sh2-129_130830.html However, are you up for a Tak Epsilon F2.8??? I've banned myself from commenting negatively on other makes of camera and am probably guilty of having contributed what one member in this thread has called 'a load of crap' on another forum! I do get to see an awful lot of cameras in my line of work, though, and you'll notice I use Atiks. I think you get an incredible level of quality for the price. I also need reliability as a provider and pay very careful attention indeed to where I'm likely to find it. What I think is under-stated about CCD imaging is that it is easier than DSLR if you want a good result. OK, capture has more operations, maybe, but they are controlled via dedicated software and you don't need to disable things the camera thinks you want! The hardest parts to get right in most images are the stars and the background sky. DSLR backgrounds are often noisy and star colour is very hard to retain. Faint stuff can only be revealed by having a good signal to noise ratio so, again, CCD makes things easier. Ian King encouraged me to go straight into mono CCD (with the 16HR, precurser to the Atik 314L) and I really am grateful to him for one of the best bits of advice I've ever had in astronomy. Olly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+RonC Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 Thanks for that Olly, I am thinking of going in that direction next year. I am spending the Winter learning how to guide and the software side of it but with a DSLR. It's a steep learning curve as it is so an Atik may be on the cards for me next Spring!! Cheers Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philjay Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 +1 on that Olly. I modded my 1000d a few years ago but only use it for the odd terrestrial view now because life with the ccd is so much easier. A mate of mine loaned me his old artemis a few years ago after I had a bad run of images with the dslr, I havent looked back. Yep my 1000d still has a place in my kit box for very widefield but its not used much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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