stash Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 "whack it in" love it Pointers - if you new hd doesn't boot check the "Active" partition is set correctly and that your Bios has recognised your new HD - should do latter if Bios set to "Auto" for drives. You will be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catman161 Posted February 25, 2014 Author Share Posted February 25, 2014 Ha ha! Yeah it's all gone a little pear shaped (nothing major) I took the old hard drive out to find the 320GB one I wanted to put in has a different connection system and doesn't fit Oh well will get another one that is compatible and fit that. Will update on this thread if I am successful Thanks again for help-much obliged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stash Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Sounds like one is Sata the other Pata - Pata are "normally" rectangle 40 pin connections like this http://www.dansdata.com/images/io121/driveplug1024.jpg and sata are like these http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_ATA#Cables.2C_connectors.2C_and_ports - note there are a number of diff ones You used to get some convertors but for laptop it depended on the room (not worth it) and as you say your new drive will arrive soon. Sorry to ask but you have ordered the correct one for the "new" drive ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catman161 Posted February 25, 2014 Author Share Posted February 25, 2014 Haven't even ordered yet the other one is just from an old laptop a friend gave me. But thanks for guidance I will ensure I get correct one when I order Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tweedledum Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 HI Felix, Have probably got one or two in a drawer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catman161 Posted February 25, 2014 Author Share Posted February 25, 2014 Thanks Damian I've just had another look at the existing hard drive and the connector looks very odd-so now I am uncertain as to what I need! Man! Here's a pic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stash Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Sata - your spec says Sata II and I suspect , as nearly always why HP, there is a removable block/interface on the front of the Hardware in the picture. Std Sata looks like this http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/89/2.5-inch_SATA_drive_on_top_of_a_3.5-inch_SATA_drive%2C_close-up_of_data_and_power_connectors.jpg Like this - shows how it is http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-FOR-HP-PAVILION-DV2530EA-500GB-SATA-LAPTOP-NOTEBOOK-HARD-DRIVE-HDD-2-5-/330863677591 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catman161 Posted February 25, 2014 Author Share Posted February 25, 2014 Thanks for clarifying but with the fact that it has those "pins" I guess you'd call them (second picture) surely I must need somethin that fits those. The HDD I wanted fit is standard SATA and has the same connectors as pictured in your first link. The second link leads to nothing unfortunately-it just goes to eBay and says item removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stash Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9aHac2P5RgVZFJ6ZV9WQjZpWE0/edit?usp=sharing should see pictures from ebay IF NOT - link to seller http://stores.ebay.co.uk/laptopukparts?_trksid=p2047675.l2563 search "NEW FOR HP PAVILION DV2530EA 500GB" scroll down and this shows you what yours must be like. Just for Info not suggesting buying from him/her. Basically there is a hp connector on the hard drive which you need to remove to reveal the SATA interface amd then put this hp connector on the new sata disk drive. Got to go out now but will be available later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tweedledum Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Hi Felix, Clive correct above, if you use a small screwdriver you can lever off the original plastic adapter that fits onto the hard drive. Just be careful that you do not bend the pins on the drive. Simply slips onto the new drive. Just checked & have several DELL & an IBM/Lenovo adapter but not HP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catman161 Posted February 25, 2014 Author Share Posted February 25, 2014 Hmmm, ok I'll have another look. I did take it all apart but it did not appear to be screwed on rather glued in place. I'll strip it down again and report back. Thanks again guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catman161 Posted February 25, 2014 Author Share Posted February 25, 2014 Right, you were of course correct the adapter did come off and did fit the 320GB SATA drive. So I have installed it in laptop. Now this is here I have come unstuck. I want to boot from the cloned of my original hard drive which is on an external USB hard drive. So I hit F9 to change boot device to USB hard drive and all I get is a black screen with white flashing cursor in te corner. Do I need to somehow reinstall windows again or something? Sorry for dumb questions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stash Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Felix , Why do you want to boot from the USB - I thought you hard now fitted the 320gb drive into the Laptop in place of the original drive? Was the 320gb not the clone of your orig 160gb ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catman161 Posted February 25, 2014 Author Share Posted February 25, 2014 No the 320gb drive was blank and I cloned my Original 160gb drive onto an external 400gb USB seagate drive so that when I installed the new blank 320GB drive into the laptop I could then put the clone of my original drive onto the new blank 320GB drive. I didn't have a caddy to put the 320GB drive into to do the cloning so figured I should be able to do it the way I just described. Is that not a possible way of doing this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stash Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 I think I am with you. So long as you created a mirror image of the orig disc - that's all the partitions - then in theory it will run. Did you check the 400gb has an active partition as per my earlier thread. If not the quickest thing to do is pop the 400gb drive into the laptop and see if it boots as the old 160gb. Your going to tell me the 400gb is a 3.5 or non Sata drive aren't you Don't know the software you used but most allow you to create a bootable CD or USB flash drive to load the software so that you can move/copy the image you have on your 400gb to the blank 360gb you have in your laptop. Lets us know the answer to the drive type of the 400gb /type of image you took and we will take it from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catman161 Posted February 25, 2014 Author Share Posted February 25, 2014 I will have to investigate the 400GB format as it's on old school desktop one which I'll have to dismantle to have a look. Man this really is a saga now! Lol! I'll get there eventually-don't know where I would be without you guys though. Thanks. I may end up having to get someone oh knows why they're doing to help me in person though I think. Or probably end up taking it to the people at PC world health clinic place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kheldar Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Bad idea, don't do it - clean install, your karma will be rewarded if you do Just saying, would save a lot of mucking about at this point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catman161 Posted February 25, 2014 Author Share Posted February 25, 2014 Thanks Steph I don't have the windows disk that came with the laptop when I bought it all those years ago. It's windows Vista-that should give you an idea of its age Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stash Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 (edited) PC World Clinic If its from a desktop then its 3.5 inch so won't fit the Laptop no matter how you "whack it in" What function of the Paragon software did you use to transfer the image on the 160gb to the 400gb ? I had a quick look at the Paragon Software and its does have the ability to create a bottable "WinPE recovery environment" or "Prepare Linux environment" on a USB thumb drive or in an ISO . The idea is you create the bootable USB or ISO(CD to you) Recovery Environment so that you can create/copy the image onto the new laptops drive (in this case 360gb). So once you have created the "recovery environment" you boot from that media(USB stick or CD) and it then runs a limited OS to enable you to copy the backed up image to the new hard drive (i.e. 360gb) Are you running the orig Windows Vista or did you "Upgrade" Edited February 25, 2014 by stash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catman161 Posted February 25, 2014 Author Share Posted February 25, 2014 (edited) I used the copy hard drive function (first button top left in icture below) So now according to program I have identical to whats on my internal 160GB drive on the 400GB usb drive. SO It should boot from it but it doesn't. Maybe I should've clicked MIgrate OS butto instead?? It's windows vista Clive hard drive copy by Gattouomo161, on Flickr Edited February 25, 2014 by catman161 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stash Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 The boot mechanism is a two stage affair. Simply the Bios is first stage and that looks at the drive as per order or via your F9 function option - this points to the device that must contain the second part of the boot - this is always the MBR (Master Boor Record) on the device the Bios was pointed too (or F9 in your case) . IF the MBR is ok it will point to the place on its drive that contains the OS boot partition (Windows, Linux ,recovery etc) which is always the Active partition. Then the OS does it boot thing. Therefore either : 1. Your Bios doesn't support USB boots from Hard discs just Flash drives OR 2. The active partition was not set by Paragon s/w OR 3. HP's recovery partition is causing a problem OR 4. I missed something blindingly obvious - never easy remote support by chat Had the 400gb been a 2.5inch Sata disk and you had run the Clone s/w as you did (100% correct by the way - well done!) then you would have been able to insert the 400gb into the laptop and you would be running from it by now - that's all there was to the clone process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kheldar Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 I strongly suspect it's option 1 above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ecopley Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 It's not massively difficult to create a CD that will boot into Linux (I say Linux because Ubuntu can be downloaded free of charge on any computer, burnt to a disc and then booted on any other computer). From there you should be able to clone the cloned drive back to your larger internal drive. I don't have a huge amount of experience with Linux but it's definitely not hard to boot from a CD. I'd be surprised if you couldn't find a drive cloning application for Linux but I don't know for sure. Maybe if you want to try you could Google first and see. The other obvious choice would be to use an external caddy to clone the drive directly to the new one. I have a spare one somewhere. If you'd like to use it then you can give me an address and I will post it to you on Thursday. I promise not to stalk you... It's never as simple as it sounds. If it was, though, it wouldn't be any fun, would it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stash Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Felix , Can you check the 400gb to see what type of drive it is - Sata or Pata and is it 2.5inch like your 160gb ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stash Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 (edited) It's not massively difficult to create a CD that will boot into Linux (I say Linux because Ubuntu can be downloaded free of charge on any computer, burnt to a disc and then booted on any other computer). From there you should be able to clone the cloned drive back to your larger internal drive. I don't have a huge amount of experience with Linux but it's definitely not hard to boot from a CD. I'd be surprised if you couldn't find a drive cloning application for Linux but I don't know for sure. Maybe if you want to try you could Google first and see. The other obvious choice would be to use an external caddy to clone the drive directly to the new one. I have a spare one somewhere. If you'd like to use it then you can give me an address and I will post it to you on Thursday. I promise not to stalk you... It's never as simple as it sounds. If it was, though, it wouldn't be any fun, would it! His Paragon s/w can create either a WinPE or a Linux bootable CD / USB Stick - according to the spec Not to sure if his "notebook" has a CD (Felix ?) Edited February 25, 2014 by stash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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